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> <channel><title>Comments on: two neuroscience links</title> <atom:link href="http://www.manifestdensity.net/2007/04/18/two-neuroscience-links/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.manifestdensity.net/2007/04/18/two-neuroscience-links/</link> <description>Just another WordPress weblog</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:42:35 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator> <item><title>By: son1</title><link>http://www.manifestdensity.net/2007/04/18/two-neuroscience-links/comment-page-1/#comment-569</link> <dc:creator>son1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://127.0.0.1:8888/?p=206#comment-569</guid> <description>I don&#039;t think that neural networks are &#039;failed AI technology&#039;, really (although maybe the Numenta people think so, who knows).
As I understand it, the issue is really that a lot of neural-network and perceptron-like learning machines are really just poor or obscure implementations of &#039;gaussian processes.&#039;
For instance, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/mackay97gaussian.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/abstracts/gpB.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaussianprocess.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is a good index site on GPs.
Gaussian processes have their own strengths and weaknesses -- plenty of people use them (and similar &#039;nonparametric&#039; techniques) today.  NNs just got a bit of a bad rap because all the &quot;it&#039;s like a brain!&quot; hype sort of obscured the fact that they were special cases of a more general framework that was already well-understood.  But once you leave behind all the brain analogies, and understand the math behind them, they&#039;re a reasonable technology to use for some approaches/problems.
This also isn&#039;t a knock against a lot of &#039;connectionist&#039; approaches to learning -- plenty of those methods are still popular and in-use today.  Numenta&#039;s just an example of someone trying to commercialize one of those approaches.  It smells a bit fishy to &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt;, but I could easily be wrong... </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that neural networks are &#8216;failed AI technology&#8217;, really (although maybe the Numenta people think so, who knows).<br
/> As I understand it, the issue is really that a lot of neural-network and perceptron-like learning machines are really just poor or obscure implementations of &#8216;gaussian processes.&#8217;<br
/> For instance, see <a
href="http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/mackay97gaussian.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a
href="http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/abstracts/gpB.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>; <a
href="http://www.gaussianprocess.org/" rel="nofollow">this</a> is a good index site on GPs.<br
/> Gaussian processes have their own strengths and weaknesses &#8212; plenty of people use them (and similar &#8216;nonparametric&#8217; techniques) today.  NNs just got a bit of a bad rap because all the &#8220;it&#8217;s like a brain!&#8221; hype sort of obscured the fact that they were special cases of a more general framework that was already well-understood.  But once you leave behind all the brain analogies, and understand the math behind them, they&#8217;re a reasonable technology to use for some approaches/problems.<br
/> This also isn&#8217;t a knock against a lot of &#8216;connectionist&#8217; approaches to learning &#8212; plenty of those methods are still popular and in-use today.  Numenta&#8217;s just an example of someone trying to commercialize one of those approaches.  It smells a bit fishy to <i>me</i>, but I could easily be wrong&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
