Comments on: for the record, I wish it *could* change everything http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:22:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Pete Nelson http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-277093 Pete Nelson Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:56:45 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-277093 I enjoyed the comments on the original article as much as the article itself, and then this comes along and further perpetuates time being sucked right out from under me when really I could have been solving world problems, singly and in my own way… ]]> By: Will Wilkinson http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-273876 Will Wilkinson Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:36:29 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-273876 You are not working hard enough. It’s a lulzy masterpiece. ]]> By: Noah Smith http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-273780 Noah Smith Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:37:11 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-273780 OK, what does this post even mean? I can’t tell where the sarcasm ends and the serious begins. And I have no idea what point is being made here. Am I just not working hard enough and reading closely enough? Is this post a lulzy masterpiece, and I’m a swine sniffing disinterestedly at a pearl? ]]> By: Freddie http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-273512 Freddie Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:43:24 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-273512 I think you’re ascribing to the tech world specifically what are conditions universal to late capitalism. Part of the neoliberal project is to reduce all human interaction to commodity relationships, to currency interchange. Facebook, for example, takes social information and commodifies it. This commodification creep is a necessary part of a system that relies on endlessly expanding markets in a world that’s only so big. But the reduction of human life to capital interchange is necessarily alienating. When you extinguish the ineffable and transcendent, you’re of course going to get people who feel unhappy, even when they’ve got the whiz-bang technology their culture tells them is the key to the good life.

That’s not a dynamic that’s restricted to right now, but we used to have other means of creating self-satisfaction. Back when work was considered primarily about craftsmanship, there was identification with occupation, which created a sense of purpose and worth. But the jobs that (I’m constantly told) are the jobs of the future are increasingly devoid of autonomy, a connection between quality and compensation, and the production of tangible goods. Meanwhile, the religious convictions and civic engagements that previously had a lot to do with self-worth and fulfillment have both declined, thanks to a rise in atheism (or at least in fulfilled belief) and the demise of non-occupational social organizations.

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By: Dan http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-273484 Dan Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:05:39 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-273484 Spencer Ackerman’s comment made me laugh, not out loud, but rather a “holy shit, how could some be so dense yet also so arrogant as to call out Alexis for being sloppy with his facts” kind of laugh.

Alexis’s article was filled with a childish despair that deserved the sarcastic response posted here, but the statement of being able to do a bunch of disparate and far-reaching tasks using a smart phone, and even being able to do all of that while in Afghanistan, one of the most isolated places on earth, is a simple statement of fact. A fact reinforced by Ackerman’s snark. Yes he has to be in Afghanistan to be surveilled by a drone… in Afghanistan. Is that really your great insight Spencer?

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By: mattw1 http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-273207 mattw1 Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:23:34 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-273207 Really interesting post. I think a lot of people are starting to come around to these kinds of thoughts, and even questioning the value of social media and technology itself. I like my iPhone, but I know I am. By the way, have you ever checked out the short-lived BBC series Black Mirror? It’s a fictional meditation on today’s technology and culture from a particularly dark perspective. (Hence, “Black Mirror”.)

A note to the commenters: you do realize that technical accuracy is beside the point of either article? It’s bizarre to focus on that.

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By: Tom http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-271151 Tom Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:55:26 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-271151 Yeah, that raised my eyebrows as well. I think he must have been speaking hyperbolically, but it’s a weird formulation. ]]> By: Spencer Ackerman http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-271130 Spencer Ackerman Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:03:42 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-271130 Also, continent-spanning surveillance, if it ever happens, will not be borne in the bellies of drones. It’ll come hoisted by blimps larger than football fields. Even on the Monday after we all have jetpacks, we still won’t have mega-cameras small enough or drone airplanes large enough to make this all work together.

OK I’m done.

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By: Spencer Ackerman http://www.manifestdensity.net/2012/04/18/technology-is-driving-me-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-271125 Spencer Ackerman Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:58:54 +0000 http://www.manifestdensity.net/?p=2025#comment-271125 I stopped reading when he asserted he can be surveilled by a drone in Afghanistan. Unless he’s in Afghanistan, and less than a square-mile of Afghanistan at that*, no, he can’t. Alexis knows better; he’s top of the game. Surprised by this.

*much more powerful military camera suites, with names like Gorgon Stare and ARGUS, are coming online soon. At their most powerful, they will see a city-sized swath at a time. Continent-spanning drone surveillance will come the Monday after we all have jetpacks. And I’d actually prefer it if there was, because when you’re seeing a picture of that size, the human analysts who will have to interpret that data will be too overwhelmed, cognitively, for any individual to be meaningfully spied upon. BUT ANYWAY.

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